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eleven24
February 27th, 2007, 04:57 PM
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KITCHENER (Feb 27, 2007)

So you've got an immensely-talented hockey player with a dark side.

So you've got Steve Downie.

"It's been 16 games with Steve and the good has far outweighed the bad," said Kitchener Rangers coach and general manager Peter DeBoer of his suspended winger.

"He's been outstanding in his discipline and the way he's drawn penalties and avoided them. This is our first incident and hopefully our last."

Yes, the incident in Guelph.

In Saturday's 5-0 loss, Downie flipped out after his team fell behind 4-0. He jumped the Storm's Mike McLean on a centre-ice faceoff and threw punches as McLean covered up. Downie kicked his helmet as he was led off and threw a water bottle holder.

He'll get at least four games from the Ontario Hockey League. Two for the game misconduct and for instigating a fight. Two for the water bottle toss that left him with a gross misconduct.

DeBoer knew when he acquired the hot-tempered Downie from Peterborough on Jan. 8 that Downie has a history of snapping. A year ago, he got five games for jumping a Belleville player.

"He hates to lose," DeBoer said of Downie, a two-time world junior champion for Canada and a top Philly Flyers NHL prospect.

"When the team gets in a situation where we're losing or we're getting embarrassed, he takes it personally. Sometimes, he doesn't handle that the right way. His heart is in the right spot. He's trying to make a difference and get the team going."

Downie, who was not available for comment yesterday with the Rangers taking a day off, straddles the line.

The threat he might cross over it makes him intimidating and effective.

DeBoer likens him to ex-Rangers David Clarkson and Adam Keefe, two immensely effective and potentially volatile players who were so valuable to the Rangers in recent playoff years.

Clarkson, who was a clutch overtime scorer in the playoffs in 2005, missed the 2004 playoffs after a late-season stick-swinging incident in Guelph earned him a suspension.

Keefe, an intimidator who had the Owen Sound Attack cowering in the 2005 playoffs, missed the start of that playoff season after getting suspended for flipping the bird at the Erie Otters bench in a late-season game at the Aud.

Both players helped the Rangers win the Memorial Cup in 2003.

"When you coach players like Downie and Clarkson and Keefe -- players that play that role and play with that emotion -- you realize pretty quickly that they're not thinking about the consequences or next week when that's happening," DeBoer said. "They're in the moment and they're trying to make a difference. Afterwards, when it clicks in what it's cost them, there's some regret."

But DeBoer believes these players are worth any extra worry. Downie, 19, kept his cool to help Peterborough win the OHL title last spring.

"You'd be crazy to avoid players like this -- these are the type of players that can also win you series," DeBoer said. "From a coaching point of view, they're obviously a challenge. But you know they're difference-makers."

Downie can't make a difference this week as the Rangers visit Windsor, his first OHL team, on Thursday. Nor will he be a factor in Friday's Aud showdown with powerful Plymouth or a March 8 visit to first-place London.

When Downie returns to the lineup, both player and coach should be wiser.

"I take some of the blame," DeBoer said of the Guelph meltdown.

"Maybe I should have seen it coming and predicted his state of mind at that point in the game. I'm sure he would tell you he won't handle that situation the same way again. From a coaching point of view, you're learning about your player. Maybe I'll try and avoid putting him in situations like that if a game is out of hand

Ryan20
February 27th, 2007, 05:14 PM
I cannot wait to see this kid get a shot with the Flyers. I love that he plays the game with soo much passion. While I'm not exactly behind his action here, it's good to see someone show that they still care. Maybe the Flyers can learn something from this kid.

sekkes85
February 27th, 2007, 07:21 PM
Luckily he didn't make the squad this year, imagine if he played in the 9-1 loss to buffalo? he probably would have shot a couple of people. i love that he hates losing that much, but you need to keep your cool. I know he is young and all but he acted like a pissed off 16 year old there. He needs somebody to keep his head on straight and grow up. I would love to see him on the roster next season but not if he keeps pulling crap like that over and over.

sekkes85
February 27th, 2007, 07:41 PM
just watch the begining of this, completely unacceptable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muUpxqu_Yls&mode=related&search

the rest looks pretty good though :lol:

eleven24
February 27th, 2007, 08:22 PM
I have to admit though - I WANTED one of the Flyers to act that way in the 9-1 loss. Instead they just took their beating and rolled over like good dogs. If Downie tempers the anger a bit he's exactly what this team needs.

Ryan20
February 27th, 2007, 10:22 PM
I have to admit though - I WANTED one of the Flyers to act that way in the 9-1 loss. Instead they just took their beating and rolled over like good dogs. If Downie tempers the anger a bit he's exactly what this team needs.

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dutch74
February 28th, 2007, 07:19 AM
this kid is a maniac... while I like his fire, he needs to learn to control it better or he quickly play himself out of the NHL. Still, he's not gonna sit back and let the action come to him... and he's got skills as well. I hope he makes the team next year.

tmcc
February 28th, 2007, 07:31 AM
Again?

God I love this kid.

Jlg-28
February 28th, 2007, 07:38 AM
crazy stuff, but good to see he has more spirit and fire then our team has shown

tmcc
February 28th, 2007, 07:41 AM
crazy stuff, but good to see he has more spirit and fire then our team has shown

Darn skippy. We could use the emotion.

Drew
February 28th, 2007, 02:01 PM
This kid is going to be loved in Philly. Can't wait until he's on the roster. His energy and emotion is EXACTLY what we are lacking.

sekkes85
February 28th, 2007, 02:31 PM
He's not going to be loved when hes drawing unnecessary pentalies and costing us games. If he even plays, I smell many suspensions in his career if he can't control his emotions. That fire is a very valuable thing to have in a player, but if he can't learn to control himself and release it when necessary or in the proper ways (scoring perhaps??) then he will do more harm than good.

eleven24
February 28th, 2007, 02:44 PM
From all reports he controlled his temper while playing in the WJC tourney. His only "outbursts" occur when his team is getting beaten badly. If you ask me this years edition of the Flyers accepted losing too easily & far too often needed a kick in the ass. Perhaps if a guy like Downie was around we wouldn't have been saying every other game that the Flyers "came out flat".

Wes
February 28th, 2007, 04:50 PM
Downie excites me alot. He has skill, skates well, and most importantly, plays to win and plays with emotion every night. Yes, he needs to mature a little bit, but what 18-19 year old doesn't? (Hear that kids? lol)
According to coach DeBoer in Kitchener (an elite level OHL coach), Downie learns from his outbursts and they're becoming less and less frequent. He's channeling that energy and passion into competitive fire and a desire to win. Ain't nothin' wrong with that. This kid looks like a smaller, more skilled version of Rick Tocchet.